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Kick starter exclusive cards, how good are they?

Postby cheongzewei » Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:15 am

How do you think it would be?

I predict the cards will be nerfed after 3 months, perhaps 5.

https://alteil-login.apocoplay.com/card ... hp?id=1897
OBSIDIAN DRAGON / TEZCATLI
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HP AT DF AGI RNG LP
80 10 0 3 3 2
GOWEN CARD TYPE: DRAGON KIN
CHARACTER
4
LV.
auto-POLISHED BY FIRE SP SP 0
This unit gets AT +[your Gowen level X10] for this turn.
skill-MOLTON GLASS BREATH SP SP 1
Do [damage: AT] to three random enemy units in range.
Close-SMOKING MIRROR SP SP 0
Do [damage: your Lawtia level X5] to all enemy units.

50 damage for 1 sp,
20 damage free on close, agility 3, 80 hp, at a 4 sp cost.

Dragon kin trait,
Calling it. This + support + that that dragon grimore =, new meta.

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BLACK MANTLE / JACQUES
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HP AT DF AGI RNG LP
30 20 0 3 2 2
CARD TYPE:
CHARACTER
2
LV.
skill-SHADOW HAND SP SP 0
Do [damage: AT+20] to a random enemy in range. If that unit is below 0HP, then rival iczer gets SP-1.
close-DARK CURSED TREASURE SP SP 0
[conditional use/battletime night] Rival Iczer gets SP-1. And then, you get SP+1.

the F***? 40 damage level 2 card? That DRAINS 1 sp and even DRAIN + GIVE SP AT NIGHT on close? Succubi + this guy= full counter against +1 sp files.
New lawtia opener. Just, just to good a card.

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POSSESSED WILDCAT
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HP AT DF AGI RNG LP
60 30 0 4 1 1
CARD TYPE: MONSTER
UNIT
4
LV.
Start-WILD POUNCE SP SP 0
[conditional use/Focused] Do [Damage AT+10] to one random enemy unit not in range.
auto-SHARE THE KILL SP SP 0
[conditional use/a Closed enemy unit is on the field] One friendly [subtype: Monster] is healed HP+20.
skill-CLAW GOUGE SP SP 0
Do [damage: 50%AT] to two random enemy units in range. This unit is Focused until the end of next turn and gets AT+10.


Free damage focus. 50 Start damage. 4 agility 20 hp heal.
Is there a card that does the same thing this guy does at 0 SP?

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MIKO PRINCESS / HIRUME
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HP AT DF AGI RNG LP
70 30 0 3 3 1
CARD TYPE:
CHARACTER
6
LV.
trait-BARRIER SEAL SP SP 0
This unit cannot be targeted or effected by Open Skills.
action-MIKO'S SEAL SP SP 1
Three random enemy units in range get HP-10. Any engaged units hit get HP=0 and are engaged until the end of next turn.


It's end game serpent. What else do I need to say?

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so based on these 4 cards, how do you think alteil would change. I suspect: no more t1 shades, more tidal wave falkrows, mid falkrow with dragon and some limited increased success in timestop decks.
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Re: Kick starter exclusive cards, how good are they?

Postby Ropey » Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:46 am

If the cards that are available only to backers stay exclusive then limited numbers and the way horizon will penalize the use of some cards should make nerfing unnecessary.
Look at the recent errata which I believe was done to bring cards closer to the horizons model. These sort of changes will be more the norm in the future. Balancing common cards and hopefully leaving stuff that is considered OPed for occasional use. Thinking about the new set up I realized that although I hate OPed cards there is a great satisfaction in beating them and they can be fun to use. The last thing I want to see is the total homogenization of the game.
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Re: Kick starter exclusive cards, how good are they?

Postby Jazzock » Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:06 am

Note that statistics are subject to change during game balancing.


I'm going to guess that they're gonna get changed around a bit before they even get released lol.

As a side note: The gowen thing is basically just a lv4 buffed shadow hound lol
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Re: Kick starter exclusive cards, how good are they?

Postby Muklas » Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:57 am

That dragon is bloody stupid, 50 or more damage to three units for 1SP.
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Re: Kick starter exclusive cards, how good are they?

Postby Icyman2 » Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:59 am

Well first, the min dmg is 40x3 for the dragon. Dragon might get some changes but I can say for sure that Jacques isn't staying. It is a more versatile and powerful exorcist doll (stat points, no sp cost for attempting drain, no loose sp required for attempting drain, close also drains and potentially sp gens). No way log allows this powercreep
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Re: Kick starter exclusive cards, how good are they?

Postby Jazzock » Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:06 am

Min is 50 damage on the dragon, it has 10 base attack lol
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Re: Kick starter exclusive cards, how good are they?

Postby Callonia » Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:50 am

They're not flying the solar kingdom banner thus I disregard how good they might be. But I do think Obsidian Dragon's art is kinda okay looking. If i decide to go and get them, they'll be gathering dust in my folder for long time. Except for the obsidian dragon, I wanna play it at least once just cuz maybe against the npcs.
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Re: Kick starter exclusive cards, how good are they?

Postby Ropey » Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:06 am

I hope wild cat stays the same as it could be just what monsters need.

Bandying about cards with OPed stats just too get backers? Shame.
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