Alteil October 2012 Financial Report

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Re: Alteil October 2012 Financial Report

Postby AngelicDeath » Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:04 am

Seconding DG and Gon's thoughts. How exactly is AH going to lower the cost of getting a set? Even if every card in set 12 went on AH at 100% recycle value you are looking at 115 usd for the set. I'm not fully convinced that the 5 stars and 4 stars will even be available on AH since that presumes we have at least enough buyers to get extras of these cards to put up there. I guess there could be sphere specific players who would post up their non-sphere cards but are there many of these players? I don't know.

I'll be sitting on the fence for set 12, hopefully we'll have enough high spenders left to "fund" the auctions when that time comes.

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Re: Alteil October 2012 Financial Report

Postby LoneKnight » Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:13 am

It's not going to lower set prices, it's going to improve recycle value and improve your methods of filling the "holes".
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Re: Alteil October 2012 Financial Report

Postby Peralisc9001 » Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:29 am

Well i got some rares i wish to sell so who knows. @_@

Hope i can pick the starting price for the auction or at least there should be a minimum for rares.
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Re: Alteil October 2012 Financial Report

Postby AngelicDeath » Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:55 am

Glad to see we are. On the same page. Will it be a good thing- yes. Does it do much in the way of solving cost per content? I'd say no but it is too early to tell.

I really hope EX will be on there since with EX lotto at 100 gran vs 220 gran buying at base cost there will be a good chance at getting them for a lower rate than normal.
Now just some numbers for you to ponder. Based on the past gold box sales the averages were:
1.6 x 5 star
2.6 x 4 star
6 x 3 star

Even if we round up that gives you 600 gran in 5 stars, 450 gran in 4 stars, 180 gran in 3 stars. That leaves 70 cards and i'll just give them all to you at 2 stars for a recycle of 700 gran. 81 cards in gold box last time i bought gold box -correct me if i am wrong. Assuming on Friday you put all these up you are looking at 1930 gran back on 3450 gran invested. I suppose Pera you will get double for your 5 stars and 4 stars ifyou put them up in AH........even then do you break even ?.....


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Re: Alteil October 2012 Financial Report

Postby wakka9ca » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:09 pm

I think they at least need to guarantee 2x 5-star cards for the gold box, not 1.6. Also, they need to put more than 3-stars in.

Increasing the recycle value of the boxes directly is a good way to start. Also, 2x 5-star guarantee at least removes some randomness that distinguish a gold box from a regular box. Imagine what people feel when they open only 1 5-star? They feel like they just lost 12$ since they could have bought a normal box instead. So a baseline guarantee of strictly better than normal box (not sometimes better) is actually a good psychological effect that will reduce the frustration of the players.

Unless, of course, you still want to stick to the "hope high-spending players will spend more based on their gambling tendencies to get more rares".

A tricky and risky move.
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