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[Noobwiz]

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Hi everybody!

I'm hosting a tournament! This is sort of a test run to see how things turn out. If it goes well, I will be hosting more tournaments. (and maybe the prize support will be increasing.) The format is 4-6 rounds of Swiss Best of 1, followed by a Best of 3 Single Elimination Bracket. There are no File restrictions, but I will be adding sideboarding for the top 8.


Here are the Details:

Super Broken Brothers
Date: Feb 6, 2010
Time: 1200 EST
Estimated Start Time: 1230 EST
Entry Fee: None
Prizes:
The prizes will be supplied by a GM and will be similar to previous tournaments.
1st: 50 Gran, 10 Point cards
2nd: 10 Point Cards
3rd-6th: 2 Point Cards
In addition all Entrants will receive 1 Point Card provided they play at least 1 game.



Rules:
Entry:
PM (Noobwiz) me the following.
Username:
Primary Card File:
Sub File:
Current RP:

-This must be submitted by 2/5/10 1700 EST.
-The chat room name and password will be PMed to you by: 2/6/10 0100 EST.
-Your files will be kept confidentially. The top 8 files will be posted in the results thread.
-You must be in the appropriate chat by 1200 EST or you will not be allowed to participate. I will then draw up the first round.
-You may only enter with one account.


File Requirement:
Primary File:
There are no requirements on this file. Bring Primclone, DEFS, your pet project, or the most broken thing you have!
-You must play the first game of each round with your primary file.
-You may not modify your primary file between rounds.

Sub File:
Sub Files are your sideboard. Sub files will only effect the top 8. The early rounds will be best of 1.
-A Sub file can only contain 8 cards.
-After Game 1 you may switch any of your cards in your Sub File with those in your Primary File.
-When modifying your Primary File: the following cards may not be added as soul cards.
Enormous Frog
Giant Forest Snake
Magic Dolls -Defective-
Shadow Spirit
Water Dragon
Fire Dragon
Holy Dragon
Dragon of the Mercurial Night

What if I have those SS in my primary file, can I still use them?
-Yes, If your Primary file has those cards as Soul cards you may keep them as your soul cards. You may not ADD any of those cards as Soul Cards.


To Modify your file I would suggest this:
1) Copy your Primary File.
2) Use your Sub File as reference for what cards you have access to.
3) Using Notepad or a pen and paper, and write down your changes.
4) Edit the Copied File.
5) ....
6) Profit!

-Anyone caught using a card not in either their Primary File or their Sub File will be disqualified.


Tournament Structure:
Swiss, 5-6 rounds, Best of 1
-In Swiss, everyone plays each round. A win is worth 3 points, a draw 1 point, and a loss 0 points.
First round will be seeded by RP.
The Top 8 players will enter a Single Elimination Bracket. Ties will be determined by Strength of Field (ie your opponents' records)


Top 8:
Single Elim, best of 3.
Side boarding cards from your Sub File will be in effect.
Seeding will be done based on your performance in the Swiss rounds.
The losers of the first round will play each other an extra match to determine 5th/6th place.

Time Limit:
Swiss:
-When your match is announced you will have a 5 minute time limit to create and start the game.
-You then have a 30 minute time limit to finish the game.

Top 8:
-You will have a 5 minute time limit to create and start your game.
-30 Minutes per Game.
-10 minutes for Sideboarding.
This is repeated for games 2 and 3.

-Failure to create or join your game will count as a loss. The responsibility to create a game is up to the first player I announce.
-Swiss Rounds: If a game is not completed within the 30 minute time limit a judge will view the game and determine a winner. All decisions made by a judge will be final. Any arguing about a decision will result in a Disqualification.
-Top 8: If the time is up or there is a draw: It will be up to the judge's discretion to determine the winner. (A judge will join any games running up to the time limit and make a call.) Any decision made by a judge will be final. Again any arguing about a result will result in a Disqualification.
-All games must be public and viewable.
-No joining with Duplicate Accounts.


Reporting Games:
-The winner must report the results of your matches to me in chat.
-Games must be reported promptly or you will be disqualified.
-In case of a dispute either pm/email me a screenshot of the result or stay in the game so I can watch it. If a dispute takes longer than 20 minutes to settle both players will be Disqualified.


Disconnect/Inactivity/Stalling:
-Disconnecting counts as a loss.
-Inactivity for more than 10 minutes will be counted as a loss. Give me a warning in chat that they are inactive, if the game does not advance or if they do not reply in chat within 5 minutes they will be given a loss.
-Stalling for a draw: If your opponent is stalling for a draw you must notify me in chat. A judge will then view the game and when time is up will make a decision about the winner. Any decision by the judge will be final.
-Again if any dispute takes longer than 20 minutes to settle both players will be Disqualified.


I also reserve the right to Disqualify you for any reason. Don't cheat. Be prompt about your games. I want this to run as smoothly as possible.



Registered Players:
chrisheller
Keladry
Artist
surignum
GonFreeces31
hat
babyeater
garcia1000
Anvilogd
Delia
CrimsonShade
LoneKnight
Khalida
Godric
Tiuwaz
Tendo
DDrgn
Visfarix
Fyris
ThunderBlade
TLHM
ShinMaster
luckysvn777
xPillow
Paratipper
Asxlen64

[Peralisc2]

Nice you took the inneciative to host a tourney. Did you talk to the GMs btw? They might offer some support or sometimes hint 1-2 things that you overlooked. Well you have all your rules set and everything seems all nice and comfy ... probably you already talked to them.

I got a question here. Why do you want to know the current RP? Mine is at 14xx or little above 1500, but ...

[ANIMEniac]

I know this would probably cause a stir to some of the community who will instantly shout the unfairness of the tournament with OP files.
However, it will be a good opportunity with the reg deck to actually see the strength of the meta in a real competitive environment instead of random/newbie stomps. Plus you can be sure the counter-metas will be more effective if you choose to go that route.

Time ruling I'm a bit iffy, especially with ow Alteil is. In Swiss, it is usually very rare for a draw (or tried to be made so). Alteil, you can't watch it live, so you can't call out a staller who might lose and is aiming for draw end-game. Then comes the question if it would be fair to go with a high LP ruling = winner? Would be interesting to see an actually time ruling in the works and see how it goes.

Side-deck DQ should be instant DQ. We are talking about a Finals here. If it was throughout the whole tounry, than warning is fine. But in Finals, there's just no room to allow for such a "mistake" that could lead to final result.

Final note:
For those who may feel a bit out of this tourny, there will be another one in a week or 2. Will be bringing back mono-sphere tourny once again. This time with a reg deck ruling.

[Noobwiz]

Yeah I already sent a PM to logress. I will be sending another one shortly.

I want your Current RP for first round seeding. This is to make sure the best players don't fight each other right away.


I changed the time limit/inactivity/stalling to be up to a judges discretion.

I changed the using an unregistered card to a DQ.

[Metallix]

How will you know they will use the file they PM to you in the match? are you planning on watching each and every duel than comparing the cards used to the list they send you?

Also is it fair that you are prohibiting the exchanging of certain SS in something you claim is a super broken tournament? should we be allowed to add in whatever cards we want if we make it their?

Why is a win worth 3 points instead of 2 wouldn't that make more sense?

As for the time limit what if someone starts lagging Altiel can get pretty laggy if you play a good number of games back to back?

If you reserve the right to disqualify anyone for any reason you want whats stopping you from just disqualifying people who you don't like even if their winning?

Also just because I enjoy this sort of thing

How do we know your not going to spread around the files given to you or are just making this tournament to get the best deck designs?

[Artist]

Sounds like fun but I have no broken decks =\

I guess I'll be there for the participation points.

[ANIMEniac]

Love the extreme negativity >.>

1) GMs can check logs for anyone playing a file they shouldn't have or done editing to (random deck check? XD). Volunteers are also a choice to help watch.

2) If you understood how things work, you can easily see why the final sideboard rules exist. If you don't, then I'll explain. Would you enjoy a match up where a person just sticks in 3x sphere specific AoE SS in the finals just to beat you?
I had a mono-sphere tourny and I banned those cards but allowed switching/edit decks.

3) That is how Swiss works to give more favor to wins than people who want to gain top spots through draws. Ive been in situations with the 2-0-1 point ratio, the system quickly got replaced with the 3-0-1.

4) B/C of the nature of the internet and the limits of "watching" a match-up, we can only do so much. This is where judges and GMs have to step in an call for stall or not.

5)

If you reserve the right to disqualify anyone for any reason you want whats stopping you from just disqualifying people who you don't like even if their winning?

What kind of question is that? For one thing, if said person was to abuse his position like that and reported, you can be sure he won't be hosting again. Then again, why take time to do this only to abuse and be punished for it?
IDK about the whole reserve the right line, but if he wants to be strict, then so be it. It keeps the BS and delay to a minimum.

6) If he wants to earn a poor rep or even a ban, then he is all welcome to.

[Noobwiz]

I got sniped by ANIMEniacs!

@Metallix
Q1) Yes I will be watching matches with the deck sheets at the ready. Obviously I won't be able to see every single card that everyone plays, but I will do my best. On this note I would be more than happy to have someone else assist me in watching and judging matches.


Q2) Actually you bring up a very good point here. I am up for unbanning those cards. The best approach to any metagame is to have everything open then to adjust the rules. If more players want access to those cards after sideboarding I will be happy to unban them.

The reason they are up there is that I am worried about sideboarding abuse. Once your know your opponents deck it wouldn't be hard to just put 3x Enormous Frogs, etc. and go from there. If both players do this I could see the finals being rather stupid/Luck dependant. I would like to avoid that.(Alternatively you could put in 3x Forest Child / Athira, Belfyna, etc. as anti-hate.)


Q3) A Win is worth 3 points to discourage players from drawing into the top 8.


Q4) I'm sorry if you lag out. If your internet connection needs to be repaired or upgraded I suggest doing so.


Q5) I'm taking this tournament very seriously. Disqualifications and rulings will be as impartial as I can be. I reserve the right to Disqualify someone in case there are rules violations I did not foresee. If you do not like this rule you do not have to enter the tournament.


Q6) The only thing I can give to you on this matter is my word. Your files will be kept confidentially. I will delete them after the tournament is over (Minus the top 8 which will be posted).

(Though, I am very excited to see what people come up with and who will win.)

I hope that helps!

[Metallix]

First of all the last 8 players can be random pairings thus avoiding the entire problem.

second it isn't lag caused by connection it is lag caused by altiel when you play alot of games back to back you start getting more and more lag Altiel has also been known to cause flash player errors if you play to long.


Third in the end you will still know our files which will give you an unfair advantage in duels if you fight us in Folart.

[luckysvn777]

I've never had any flash problems from playing multiple games in Alteil ever... all my dc's have been connection based.

Also somehow I doubt Noobwiz will remember every single file her received in the tourney.. and most likely only the top 8 will be worth countering anyway, and everyone will know those. Not to mention there's this thing in Folrart called spectate.. and it hasn't ever been a problem.

And if you're still worried, change it up a little for the tourney

Seriously Metallix, stop being such a whiny spoilsport and cynic. Other people here are actually trying to have fun and not ruin everything for themselves, try to keep that to yourself, okay? :/


Also, in my opinion, those soul cards should be banned in side boards. That's appropriate imo